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Building Alternate Picking Speed

Trent Lancaster

New Student
Nov 11, 2019
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Hey guys, I have been trying to build up my alternate picking speed lately. However, I am having problems breaking a barrier. I can play this specific lick at 140 bpm, in sixteenth notes. It’s a basic pentatonic shred lick, kind of in the style of Zakk Wylde. It’s played on the high e and b stings of an e minor pentatonic scale. Fretboard wise, I’m just hitting the 15th and 12th fret on the high e, and then hitting the same two frets on the b string. Any tips to build this lick up to speed? My goal is 160 bpm. I’ve been stuck at 140 bpm for a while now. Thanks!
 

idssdi

Sold-out Crowd Surfer
Nov 11, 2019
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I think the topic of really fast pentatonics has been brought up before and Syn said he economy picks pentatonics(3-1-3 pattern and such). That’s kind of the way to get really fast at them. I also think he said that he was going to do some etudes on them.
I don’t have any actual tips for strictly alternate picking btw. I’m a very lousy alternate picker TBH.
 
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Jak Angelescu

Guest
Building up speed accuracy with alternate picking is very Tricky. Especially in the position that you’re talking about where most people would use their index finger and their pinky finger to play it. One thing that I noticed that worked for me with increasing speed on alternate picking is that the biggest thing that was holding me back is my tension of my picking hand. You really have to make sure that your hand-to-hand Coordination is on par. Try to play the lick at 140 BPM and tell me if you notice any tension in your Picking hand or arm. A lot of people with fast alternate picking have a tendency to believe it or not, tense up their bicep and their deltoid muscle. Occasionaly the forearm can tense up as well. Try to remember economy of motion and use minimal pick with minimal wrist motion. Is there a way that you could upload a link from your YouTube page of you playing at here? Perhaps I could look at your playing method and see if you’re making some mistakes that we could all help you with
Can you tell me if it’s your fretting hand or picking hand that’s holding you back?
 

Trent Lancaster

New Student
Nov 11, 2019
11
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I feel like its my picking hand. The hard part for me is going between the two strings, I’ll kind of trip up and accidentally hit a string when I don’t mean to. I don’t feel much tensions or anything either, I’m really trying to focus on the accents and form
 
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Jak Angelescu

Guest
Ahh I see! Is it like you’re fumbling with the concept of “ending on a downstroke and starting on an upstroke” on the next string? Is it like an accuracy thing? I know that when I’m practicing the sixlets in Scream which are all alternate picked, I have a bad tendency to hit the open G string.
 

Christopher Lonski

Free Bird Player
Nov 11, 2019
275
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The most important thing to ALWAYS remember when working on technique is that speed is a byproduct of play CLEAN. Don’t worry about being fast at first, just worry about making sure both hands and halves of your brain are synced up and moving in perfect unison. Right when a finger hits a fret, make sure your pick hits the string at the exact same moment. Play AS SLOW AS YOU CAN STAND. Seriously, like you’re watching a video at 25% or something on youtube. Put ALL of your focus into making your fretting fingers and pick move in PERFECT unison. Stop playing as fast as you can and start playing as PERFECT as you can.Now, I know no one wants to hear that you should play slow, people say it all the time. Just like Ricky Bobby, we all wanna go fast. But really you have to learn the importance and power of playing slow and perfectly.
So after you sync your hands up, work on the very basic mechanics of your fretting fingers and picking hands separately. You do that by doing your FASTEST tremolo picking with the picking hand. Think like youre in the Matrix- when you think you hit your MAX speed, stop thinking and start KNOWING that you are faster. If you cant visualize yourself doing it, your physiology probably wont make it happen. Get your mind right first.
Then as far as your fretting hand goes, start doing trills with every finger set, and on all the strings. So if index is 1, middle 2, ring 3, and pinky 4. Do trills with 1&2, 1&3, 1&4, 2&3, 2&4, and 3&4. Do this trills as long as you can until your fingers are jelly. Dimebag talks about this in a video of a clinic he did in the 90’s. I think he also talked about it in his guitar world column “Riffer Madness”.
THEN after you’ve done both of these, go back to syncing your hands together but this time try alternate picking the trills and keeping them in perfect unison. Speed them up and slow them down together to gain control over this. You should be able to perfectly pick as fast as you can trill.
Another thing to consider is when you do all of this, the less motion your fingers and pick make, the faster they will be able to make it to the next note. So practice setting your pick down top of the string and REALLY focus on moving the pick just enough to make it to the other side of the string. Same with hammer ons and pull offs, really work on barely moving your fingers. One caveat with that, though, is it does require finger strength to make a nice even note come out.
ANOTHER thing to consider, for dynamics and control, is to make sure your up stroke and down stroke sound IDENTICAL. Same with your hammer ons and pull offs. The notes will be different, but make their volume and clarity the same and as equal as possible.
Now I want you all to understand how effective this way of thinking is, and believe me when I say that I have literally watched people improve IMMENSELY in a matter of 30 minutes to an hour. Seriously. It just depends on how focused you stay, and of course there are some physical limitations, which actually kind of leads me to another point. Like ANY other muscle group in your body, you don’t get stronger and faster so much from exercise itself, but the rest and recovery that follows. So work on this stuff hard until your fingers bleed, and then take the rest of the day off and relax. Stretch your fingers, hands, wrists, arms, everything.
Ive been meaning to make a video lesson about this for some time now, and I apologize for not doing it. Ive been very busy with life so I haven’t had a ton of time to focus on guitar as much, but Im definitely finding time for it again. Sorry if that was too much info to throw at you, I don’t know how to be brief with explanations.
 

Christopher Lonski

Free Bird Player
Nov 11, 2019
275
1
58
Also, if anyone wants a brain teaser and to take things a little further. You can work on ALL the finger permutations for 4 fingers. You can do this with alternate picking and legato. You can also do this straight up and down the strings, or you can string skip. You can do this with 4 frets in a row or skip frets so instead of doing frets 5-6-7-8 on a string, you can do 5,7,8,9 or 5,6,8,9. Sky’s the limit guys. So here is ALL of the different orders you can play using all 4 of your fretting fingers. If you guys figure out something I haven’t mentioned PLEASE post it and add to this.
1- 1 2 3 4
2- 1 2 4 3
3- 1 3 2 4
4- 1 4 2 3
5- 1 3 4 2
6- 1 4 3 2
7- 2 1 3 4
8- 2 1 4 3
9- 3 1 2 4
10- 4 1 2 3
11- 3 1 4 2
12- 4 1 3 2
13- 2 3 1 4
14- 2 4 1 3
15- 3 2 1 4
16- 4 2 1 3
17- 3 4 1 2
18- 4 3 1 2
19- 2 3 4 1
20- 2 4 3 1
21- 3 2 4 1
22- 4 2 3 1
23- 3 4 2 1
24- 4 3 2 1