• Join the A7X Discord!

    We're updating the community and moving all social content from the community to the Discord. All lessons related conversations will still take place here though! Join the Discord below and view the full announcement for more details

    JOIN THE DISCORD VIEW THREAD

Voice leading

idssdi

Sold-out Crowd Surfer
Nov 11, 2019
5,336
6,754
Groningen
11
I came across the term voice leading a while ago in Syn’s tips for a lesson. Now, since I don’t think there’s a specific lesson and I’m still not entirely sure how to use it, can anyone give me a full overview with applications on voice leading?
 
  • Like
Reactions: [DELETED]

idssdi

Sold-out Crowd Surfer
Nov 11, 2019
5,336
6,754
Groningen
11
So I was writing a song today and it has a chords going C-Am-Dm-G for the chorus.

Now I've always played a D minor with my index finger on the high E string, middle finger on the G string and ring finger on the D string. However in this particular chord progression due to voice leading considerations I realized that the fingering makes more sense if you do the D minor with the index finger on the high E, ring finger on the G string and pinky in the B string because you play the Am with index finger on the B string, ring finger on the G string and middle finger on the D string. It basically means you can keep the ring finger on the G string stuck.

Just figured I'd share this.
 

Brian Haner Sr.

Papa
Staff member
Legend+
Fucking Legend
Nov 11, 2019
812
3
3,507
So I was writing a song today and it has a chords going C-Am-Dm-G for the chorus.

Now I've always played a D minor with my index finger on the high E string, middle finger on the G string and ring finger on the D string. However in this particular chord progression due to voice leading considerations I realized that the fingering makes more sense if you do the D minor with the index finger on the high E, ring finger on the G string and pinky in the B string because you play the Am with index finger on the B string, ring finger on the G string and middle finger on the D string. It basically means you can keep the ring finger on the G string stuck.

Just figured I'd share this.
And that is indeed voice leading. The idea of using common notes to go from one chord to another (in this case, an A on the G string - which is in both chords) - as opposed to playing a Dm bar chord on the 5th fret and then a baby Am on the 1st & 2nd frets (plus open strings). Or worse, a Dm bar chord on the 10th fret and then a baby Am. The latter two have abrupt jumps and will sound disjointed, while the first example is smooth and stays in the same range.
Another trick (that you have obviously figured out) is to change fingering so those common notes don't stop between chords.
Nicely done!
 

Autumn

Campfire Attention Holder
  • Nov 11, 2019
    61
    103
    Portland, Oregon
    3
    I first learned about it on a music staff, so it helps to have that visualization. In college, they'd give us chords and we'd rearrange them with voice leading on a staff

    TeAqt.png
    Thank you so much for this visual representation, it made voice leading finally make sense to me! I’m curious to know, how do you decide how to voice lead on chords that have 4 or 5 notes in them?

    I’ve noticed that with some of those chords (9ths, 11ths, #13s) a note is dropped when played on the guitar because there isn’t enough space to play them all. Not quite a voice leading question I don’t think, but how do you decide what note(s) to drop?
     
    • Like
    Reactions: idssdi
    Synner Endless Summer Collection

    Calvin Phillips

    Music Theory Bragger
    Nov 11, 2019
    2,588
    1,988
    And that is indeed voice leading. The idea of using common notes to go from one chord to another (in this case, an A on the G string - which is in both chords) - as opposed to playing a Dm bar chord on the 5th fret and then a baby Am on the 1st & 2nd frets (plus open strings). Or worse, a Dm bar chord on the 10th fret and then a baby Am. The latter two have abrupt jumps and will sound disjointed, while the first example is smooth and stays in the same range.
    Another trick (that you have obviously figured out) is to change fingering so those common notes don't stop between chords.
    Nicely done!
    I love the idea of this. I imagine once you get you get caged shapes down for every chord voice leading becomes easier.
     
    • Like
    Reactions: idssdi

    idssdi

    Sold-out Crowd Surfer
    Nov 11, 2019
    5,336
    6,754
    Groningen
    11
    I love the idea of this. I imagine once you get you get caged shapes down for every chord voice leading becomes easier.
    Yes, CAGED does Definetely help for this but playing around with inversions and different fingerings is necessary as well sometimes(doing C A-shape first to Am Em-shape is a lot easier than C A-shape to Am Em-shape)
     
    • Love
    Reactions: Brian Haner Sr.