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Advice for discouragement

Dan Shipway

Slim Shady
  • Nov 11, 2019
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    Lately i have been finding it really hard to enjoy guitar as whenever I come to play I get no inspiration and listening to music doesn’t really give me any inspiration either but instead gives me the opposite, a sense of discouragement because there are so many people who can come up with such amazing ideas. I have often felt like leaving the guitar for months on end as I have felt like it just wasn’t meant to be, Any help/ advice?
     

    Dan Shipway

    Slim Shady
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    Thanks Ids, I have been contemplating leaving it around halfa year as the enjoyment hs been taken out of it and I don’t feel it would be beneficial for me to force myself into playing if I just dont have the desire
    See you guys in a while, I will be back soon
     

    Ed Seith

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    I get it. It is easy to be discouraged. When we decided to play an instrument, we became artists. Artists are notoriously insecure, and struggle against all of our smarter selves to lay our hearts and souls bare for all to see and criticize. Sometimes we are rewarded with praise. Some of us (guilty) hear the praise more as if pandering to a child (“That’s the best painting of a frog I’ve ever seen, my dear son!”), believing it is all a ruse, that we’re really not very good at all, and even if these people DO actually appreciate our work, it’s because they just don’t know any better.
    There are days I still struggle with this, but this is part of what lights the fire in the belly to better ourselves at our craft. And sometimes, it just makes us want to up and fucking quit.
    I did that. For ten years, and all because an audition didn’t go well in 1998. It was the first time, ever, I didn’t get the gig, and while it didn’t affect me consciously, so much, I can clearly see behind me that it changed my course and direction and slowly discouraged me from playing.
    That time is gone. I am just very lucky that I did find that fire within myself again, if ten years later. I have a lot to learn. I want to be better. Buncha people seem to think I’m pretty good (BUT WHAT DO THEY KNOW?), and I fight the urge to dismiss them, and accept the praise.
    Force your way through it. Don’t feed the demons.
    And if all else fails, imagine how different the lives of these young Irish lads would have been had they allowed things like this to bring them down.

    You’re allowed to have lulls. You’re allowed to have off days, or off weeks. Push through them. Break things down to basics and start over, if you have to. Just don’t walk away.
    There’s crazy shit in your head. Improve your hands so you can share it.
     
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    Jak Angelescu

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    Dan, this is a seriously awful situation to be in. I’m so sorry you’re feeling this way. I’ll try my best to help you out the best I can because I (like a billion other musicians and artists) have gone through this. Before I give you ANY encouragement, I’d like to agree with Captain Ed – it DOES get better and it WILL pass. Everyone has their moments of this. Even the greatest artists of all time.
    Take comfort in this, knowing you’re not alone and it doesn’t make you any ‘less’ of a musician.
    When you say you don’t feel inspired when you listen to music, maybe you need to take a break from listening to OTHER artists for a while. I found out that the most I ever felt let down was when I was listening to music and naturally, comparing myself to them. Sometimes it’s best to shut every other influences out the door and just sit down with your guitar and bond with it.
    I’d like to quote a line from BB King’s “Lucille”
    “Well, now when I’m paying my dues, maybe you don’t
    Know what I mean when I say paying dues, I mean when
    Things are bad with me. I can always, I can always,
    You know like, depend on Lucille.”
    Your guitar is not meant to be a challenge. It’s meant to be there when you just need to have sometime to yourself and allow yourself to have fun and be creative. Inspiration comes when you just clear your mind and not place any type of expectations on yourself. And those people that you listen to with “great ideas”, keep in mind how long these “great ideas” took to come around. Sometimes it comes in a few hours. Sometimes it comes in a few years. You have songs like one of mine where I wrote one of my most prized possessions in a few hours and then you have things like Chinese Democracy from GNR that took over 10 years to do. Also, keep in mind that some people have other people like bandmates and producers they bounce ideas off of. I will never forget the time that I watched a backstage clip of making the Stage album and I said, “WTF? Shadows wrote that riff?!”
    If you are finding yourself at a loss for inspiration, it may be best right now to take whatever recording device you have (be it a computer or a voice recorder on a cell phone) and just record yourself doing simple chord progression. Try to think of lyrics and melodies.
    They WILL sound stupid and dumb at first. But you can’t shut yourself off before you even begin. NONE of my songs sound the same as when the riff first came around.
    Don’t think about killer riffs. Don’t think about blazing solos. Don’t think about impressive key transitions and modulations. Don’t think about epic orchestration.
    I will ALWAYS quote Willie Nelson: “Country is three chords and the truth.”
    And look who Willie Nelson is. Write an amazing song. Who cares if your lyrics sound dumb to you. Someone else may love them.
    As a matter of fact. If you are at a loss for inspiration, I’ve got a task for you.
    Write a song about it. You’re obviously feeling some sort of emotion because of this. You may feel down, depressed, not worthy, lost. Write a song about it. Pick a chord progression of four chords. I don’t care what the hell they are.
    Write lyrics. And I don’t care if the melody is “mundane”.
    Let your soul out, dude. You’ve got something to say and express and I would love to hear it
     

    Calvin Phillips

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    Mick mars quit playing for like years when the crue went hiatus. I think he did some producing tho. But as soon as thr band got back together and he had his surgery he got back on that horse. And he sounded better then ever personally.
    If you need.time its understandable. But dont just walk away. Maybe try anotber instrument.
     

    Dan Shipway

    Slim Shady
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    Cheers for the support, I think it may be pointless taking such a long break now, thanks!
    I am going to pretty much try and restart everything I have learned on guitar and go from day 1 as I feel it may give me a fresh start and get me out of the habits that I have somehow got stuck into. I am also starting to listen to more styles of music to gain more understanding of dofferent techniques and chords.
    I would just like to again emphasise how much I am grateful for the feedback as it’s been terrible watching myself day by day begin to dislike something that I have loved for years but this has helped me to realise that it’s all pretty natural.