Alternate Picking I

[Dominik Gräber]

https://syngates.com/media/sgs-alternate-picking-i-70-75-bpm.2550/

Finally gave it another try

 

[idssdi]

I may need to start including the first etudes of all the tracks in my daily technique practice. I like the idea of doing that. I'm a little bit afraid I'll economy pick this by default though

 

[Dominik Gräber]

I may need to start including the first etudes of all the tracks in my daily technique practice. I like the idea of doing that. I'm a little bit afraid I'll economy pick this by default though

I think that's a good Idea as Long as you don't overdo it. As I know me, If I'd try that I would end Up Not practicing any of them enough to ever Progress

 

[idssdi]

My habbit to economy pick any 3 note per string thing messing me up a little bit here. If you follow the up and downstroke pattern as shown in the tabs it is also a great outside picking exercise!

 

[idssdi]

I've been working on this one, economy picking I and legato I so I decided to do improv using those. I don't really follow all of them exactly all the time because they kinda are scales and I'm not a big fan of doing that in my improv also I think I barely alternate picked here because I always economy pick things that are 3 note per string

 

[Dominik Gräber]

Man, I've been doing this entirely wrong. As @Stephen Vicole pointed out I played it in a more economic way, using a downstroke to get to the next string with another downstroke, when the motion should be down / up no matter what I play. That makes this so much harder.

But I have a question now. What is strict alternate picking good for then? I see no point in doing straight down ups in a real musical context when economy picking is so much easier.

 

[idssdi]

Man, I've been doing this entirely wrong. As @Stephen Vicole pointed out I played it in a more economic way, using a downstroke to get to the next string with another downstroke, when the motion should be down / up no matter what I play. That makes this so much harder.

But I have a question now. What is strict alternate picking good for then? I see no point in doing straight down ups in a real musical context when economy picking is so much easier.

I never strictly alternate pick tbh. It's more aggressive to do so but I'm not into that so much.

 

[Dominik Gräber]

I never strictly alternate pick tbh. It's more aggressive to do so but I'm not into that so much.

Yeah that is my point, I see no benefit in strictly alternate picking. But, in fact you are missing the point or are "cheating" on the alternate picking etude if you economy pick it. That's how I see it.

 

[idssdi]

Yeah that is my point, I see no benefit in strictly alternate picking. But, in fact you are missing the point or are "cheating" on the alternate picking etude if you economy pick it. That's how I see it.

I don't know if it's necessarily cheating. I look at the etudes as things you can throw in your solos, like a lick. If you play it differently from Syn that makes it kinda cooler to me.

 

[Dominik Gräber]

I don't know if it's necessarily cheating. I look at the etudes as things you can throw in your solos, like a lick. If you play it differently from Syn that makes it kinda cooler to me.

Still you're missing the point of an alternate picking exercise. If you look at Economy I it looks very similar to Alt I in that you play three notes per string. It is way easier and comfortable to economy pick Alt I, but not what the exercise is ment for.

 

[idssdi]

Still you're missing the point of an alternate picking exercise. If you look at Economy I it looks very similar to Alt I in that you play three notes per string. It is way easier and comfortable to economy pick Alt I, but not what the exercise is ment for.

And I don't really look at it as an exercise and more as a lick

 

[Dominik Gräber]

https://syngates.com/media/learning-to-play-alternate-picking-i-the-correct-way.2897/

Okay, tried it strictly with alternate picking. Gives it a totally different feel.

 

[Christian Schulze]

Holy shit...the last speed is crazy...I can rach the single and double note speed...but the last one ( I guess tripplets) fuck...

 

[idssdi]

Holy shit...the last speed is crazy...I can rach the single and double note speed...but the last one ( I guess tripplets) fuck...

You can do it!!

Just a note, it's sextuplets. That's basically groups of 6 notes

 

[Christian Schulze]

You can do it!!

Just a note, it's sextuplets. That's basically groups of 6 notes

Well...what I mean is ...when he plays it slow, he plays one note per beat. the 2 and in the end 3 I guess?

 

[idssdi]

Well...what I mean is ...when he plays it slow, he plays one note per beat. the 2 and in the end 3 I guess?

No, in the end it's 6 per beat. If you count the amount of notes it's 24 per measure divided by 4=6 per beat.

 

[Christian Schulze]

No, in the end it's 6 per beat. If you count the amount of notes it's 24 per measure divided by 4=6 per beat.

6 notes!.....man...that is gonna take me a while to reach at 130 bpms

 

[idssdi]

6 notes!.....man...that is gonna take me a while to reach at 130 bpms

You can do it!

 

[Calvin Phillips]

Yeah that is my point, I see no benefit in strictly alternate picking. But, in fact you are missing the point or are "cheating" on the alternate picking etude if you economy pick it. That's how I see it.

If you shred on the same string or same 2 strings. It makes sense to alternate pick. If you are jumping strings or going vertical definitely economy picking. It honestly depends on what you do. I'll tell you when i play i cant even say if I'm doing 1 or the other. I dont think what kind of picking should i do. I just let my body do what feels best. There are parts im weak at like descending runs. But they are improving. I just need to remember to start on up strokes.

 

[Dominik Gräber]

If you shred on the same string or same 2 strings. It makes sense to alternate pick. If you are jumping strings or going vertical definitely economy picking. It honestly depends on what you do. I'll tell you when i play i cant even say if I'm doing 1 or the other. I dont think what kind of picking should i do. I just let my body do what feels best. There are parts im weak at like descending runs. But they are improving. I just need to remember to start on up strokes.

Naturally. Can't Economy Pick on one string