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CAGED System – The A Shape – Lesson 25

Calvin Phillips

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yesterday I wanted to do the lesson fast and didn’t pay enough attention, today I did it again and understood what was going on, thank you.
I rushed through the lessons myself and realized later k missed a lot
BUT some lessons later on make earlier lessons make more sense so sometimes its worth rushing through them.
 
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    In the context of this exercise, yes. Because everything from the CAGED system lesson is done in the D scale just for the sake for consistency.

    But let's take an exemple:

    1 -5-
    2 -7-
    3 -7-
    4 -7-
    5 -5-
    6 ---

    This is a D chord in A shape. You know its a D chord because the root note (5th fret, 5th string is a D) is a D. The A shape simply refers to the shape your finger takes which is alike the A chord taught at the very beginning. So on this chord, you would play the D pentatonic, Major scale because thats what works on it.

    Now let's take raise it all by one fret:

    1 -6-
    2 -8-
    3 -8-
    4 -8-
    5 -6-
    6 ---

    This is an A shape stilll however its not a D anymore. it was raised by one fret. So now, its a D# in A shape. And now if you take a look at the pentatonic and major scale that play over this, you will simply notice that its the same pattern as previously only raised by one fret to adapt to the new note!

    The CAGED system is not limited to one key. Papa gates uses the same key just for consistency. However, the CAGED system is a pattern that can be used in any key if applied correctly! Hope it helps!
    In the context of this exercise, yes. Because everything from the CAGED system lesson is done in the D scale just for the sake for consistency.

    But let's take an exemple:

    1 -5-
    2 -7-
    3 -7-
    4 -7-
    5 -5-
    6 ---

    This is a D chord in A shape. You know its a D chord because the root note (5th fret, 5th string is a D) is a D. The A shape simply refers to the shape your finger takes which is alike the A chord taught at the very beginning. So on this chord, you would play the D pentatonic, Major scale because thats what works on it.

    Now let's take raise it all by one fret:

    1 -6-
    2 -8-
    3 -8-
    4 -8-
    5 -6-
    6 ---

    This is an A shape stilll however its not a D anymore. it was raised by one fret. So now, its a D# in A shape. And now if you take a look at the pentatonic and major scale that play over this, you will simply notice that its the same pattern as previously only raised by one fret to adapt to the new note!

    The CAGED system is not limited to one key. Papa gates uses the same key just for consistency. However, the CAGED system is a pattern that can be used in any key if applied correctly! Hope it helps!
    Why do the scale shapes change between the c shape and the a shape?
     

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    Why do the scale shapes change between the c shape and the a shape?
    Well seeing as every chords of the CAGED system of a given note consists of overall all more or less the same notes just in a different place on the fretboard and therefore in most cases of a different pitch, the same sort of applies to scales. A scale of a given key most often starts by the root note of the key as to give it the right context.

    In the context of the caged system, it is true that both chords share the same placement of their root note. But since every chord has a scale that basically plays over it and that they are played in different shape, the shape of the scale also changes to adapt to be able tp play over the given chord.

    Let me know if this wasn't clear.
     
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    Is there a reason why the A shape starts in the 5th position in this lesson?? Is it because the last note of the C shape in the previous lesson was on the 5th??
    He's starting there because the 5th fret on the low E string, which we're starting the shape from here, is an A.