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How do I turn scales into solos?

Kat the metalhead

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    So as of recently I just learned the major scale and I’ve known pentatonic scales for years but I have no clue how to turn scales into solos. Are there any rules of what I can and can’t do? Can I skip strings? Or do I just use the notes in the scale and mix them up any way I want? I’m lost as you can tell :ROFLMAO: I’d love to write my own stuff but I feel like not knowing how to apply what I learned into songs is a problem! Anything will help thanks!!
     

    chris_is_cool

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    I'm still a beginner myself, but here are the most important points in my opinion:

    • The most important thing should be the melodies (and maybe motifs) that you want to create! PG explains it beautifully in this lesson: https://syngates.com/lessons/melody-motif-lesson-2.164/
      Really, the most important thing about learning scale patterns and intervals and whatever is to enable you to directly translate melodies from your head to the fretboard. Of course, you will want to embellish the played notes, with hammer-ons/pull-offs, bends, slides, etc, but the translation melody -> fretboard comes first.
    • Learn solos from songs that you like, and just steal licks (short phrases) that you really really like, play around with them, change them to your liking, etc...
    • Don't feel too boxed in or restricted by a scale. There are 12 notes available in an octave (the chromatic scale), and all notes are available to you at all times if you want to play them, at least as filler notes. So if the melody in your head wants a particular note, but it is not part of the scale "you are supposed to be playing"... play that note anyway.
    So that's just how I think about these things, the most important part is probably to just play a lot of improvisation, and learn a lot of other solos and learn from them as possible, and everything else falls into place with time (it hasn't really for me yet either).
     

    Brian Haner Sr.

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    Hey Kat!
    The best solos are melodies - not scales. Playing scales just sounds like you're practicing. You can skip notes, skip stings, and even play notes that are not in the scale, IF they sound good to your ear. The best way to create a melodic solo is to practice playing existing melodies. Pick a couple of songs (preferably old standards) that you know really well. Songs you know so well you can hum or sing the whole melody. Something like "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" from the "Wizard of Oz". Try and play that on guitar. You will quickly find that it is not a scale. It's all over the place. It involves note skipping, string skipping, etc. It is a GREAT melody. If you want something more modern - try playing "Seize Thee Day". It has a nice melody that makes you skip around. All the notes in these melodies are from scales - but they are NEVER just the scale.
    Melodies are usually much simpler in rock. You're often forced to play over one chord for a long time - which totally sucks. You can still make it interesting by skipping around and trying to create melodies. Also mix up your techniques. Stay on one note a little longer using a lot of vibrato. slide into notes, bend into notes. There are a million possibilities combining note choice and different techniques.
    Make it melodic and make it interesting.
    Hope that helps!
    Cheers!
    pg
     
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    Saraceal

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    There’s a ton of great advice here! The only thing I would add is think about your phrasing. When playing a melodic lead line think about it kinda as if you were playing sax or something you need to take a breath for. They don’t just continuously play there’s room to breathe in there as well. I actually take literal breaths now. Just thought it was worth a note because it helped me a lot
     

    Romain Tassan

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    The thing is to not consider the scales as pre-defined successions of notes. You must experiment with different combinations and use different techniques (string skipping, sweeping, tapping etc...). By doing that, you'll be able to find your own stamp, and discover the melodies that you like the most. The second thing is to always keep the tempo of the backing track in mind and make every note you play fit in it. Don't try to play faster or slower than the tempo. Scales allow you to play in key, but playing in key isn't enough. To build solos, you will have to find your own favourite combinations of notes and your own licks
     

    Riff36

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    So as of recently I just learned the major scale and I’ve known pentatonic scales for years but I have no clue how to turn scales into solos. Are there any rules of what I can and can’t do? Can I skip strings? Or do I just use the notes in the scale and mix them up any way I want? I’m lost as you can tell :ROFLMAO: I’d love to write my own stuff but I feel like not knowing how to apply what I learned into songs is a problem! Anything will help thanks!!

    Put on a jamming track from you tube as a backing track and noodle those scales that u have learned or memorised. Phrasing and listen to ur ears on which notes are nicer and in no time u be a badass solo guitarist. 3 Important aspect to differentiate a great guitarist and and good guitarists … i will always say, recommend, advised and train myself is… Rhythm, Timing and Melody. If u owned a looper it be more awesome as u can practice and even create melody from scales with ur inner creativity. And slowly expand and shaped into solos. Remember to have fun don’t stress or torture urself as music comes from what u r feeling eventually. And that is where modes comes in eventually. Happy training! ☺️🤘🐰🐇🐇🐇🐰🤘✊