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Brian Haner Sr.

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They listened more than they played. That's the key.
 

idssdi

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They listened more than they played. That's the key.
I catch myself doing the same a lot, I don't spend nearly as much time sitting down with a metronome as I do listening to music trying to catch what they do.

I also trained myself to always listen to what I'm playing and how it fits in what I'm playing over while I'm improvising, it saves me from relying on patterns instead of whatever sounds good in my head.
 
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Mariler

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This conversation is really interesting.
I think there’s a lot going on around a great song.
Genius and creativity go beyond music theory knowledge and playing perfection. Some artists combine all of these qualities and even so they will be always underrated. Others will have less qualities and be more successful to the audience.
Success may depend on the synergies between the musicians of a band and together they can make magic. That could explain why awesome songwriters create amazing music when they are in a band but their stuff on other projects doesn’t seem to be so good.
Don’t you guys think that the greatness of a song lies not only just on an awesome songwriter or guitar player or a band performing it, but also on the audience at that particular moment in time as well as the other factors I mentioned ?
 
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Calvin Phillips

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I just watched the nirvana DVD. It wasn't just him. The drums and bass add a huge element in each build up of every song. His progression and song writing approach wasn't difficult. If you follow the idea of how song writing works you'll get it..

1. The melody and how it progresses.. he did this with his clean chorus effect a LOT. Then he simply distorted it. Easy build up method.

2. Chord progressions. Many chords of his were the same chord progression. But you'd never realise it unless you listened to the songs after another. But simple pop chord progressions.

3. He had fun with it and didn't care. You could tell he out his solo Into it. In part to his vocals..he had crohns disease so that definitely effected his singing ability. I think he enjoyed screaming more anyways.
 

Jaxon Muller

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Yeah i definitely don't want to discount Dave and Krist, 2/3's of the recipe. Kurt seemed to take credit, though. So his tremendous stomach issue was just crohn's disease at the end of the day? I mean I know that's serious and can complicate almost any social plans for people who have it; he talked about it like it was a tumor or something. I think your points are all super on-point and valid. It's so cool having discussions like these with a community full of talented and experienced players. Love the responses!
 

Calvin Phillips

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Kurt was a control freak. He told them what to do but essentially its them doing it.

Dave grohl definitely learned lot from him though.