• Join the A7X Discord!

    We're updating the community and moving all social content from the community to the Discord. All lessons related conversations will still take place here though! Join the Discord below and view the full announcement for more details

    JOIN THE DISCORD VIEW THREAD

Question Over Lesson 25

idssdi

Sold-out Crowd Surfer
Nov 11, 2019
5,336
6,754
Groningen
11
No technically it isn’t the A shape. You are kinda doing the G shape there. As far as that shape goes for soloing I would recommend checking out perpetual burn by Jason becker, I would recommend listening to the whole song but the sweeping bit I mean starts around 1:40. The reason you may want to use it in your soloing would be that playing the same arpeggio but different shapes can sound really cool. If you have any more questions you can always ask!
 

idssdi

Sold-out Crowd Surfer
Nov 11, 2019
5,336
6,754
Groningen
11
Not really a roll can be pretty tricky to do cleanly. Sweeping a C shape is easier than a A shape for example. Rolling is basically barring notes and muting the note you played when you go to the next one by rolling. It’s pretty hard to explain in text😅
 
Synner Endless Summer Collection

Chris Johnston

Music Theory Bragger
  • Nov 11, 2019
    759
    10
    1,883
    29
    North Ayrshire, Scotland
    14
    Like most things Jak it’s personal preference! I totally get where you’re coming from regarding the finger roll being less practical (or at least more difficult to play cleanly) – It’s something I’ve been looking closely at in my own playing.
    I’ve found that sticking with it but going uber uber slow and almost imagining the part of your finger needed for the specific note roll being like a magnet to the string/fretboard (Rididulous I know haha but it helps) It’s a matter of training your whole finger to execute unorthadox positions 😂
    Basically, it’s not wrong to have your preference if you get the same job done harmonically either way! (But it’s a good pay off if your finger gets used to doing the roll thing even a little bit!)
    Hope this helped!
     

    Firsty Lasty

    New Student
    Nov 11, 2019
    278
    284
    How I see a D Major arpeggio at this location is with string skipping. I hope you’re feeling adventurous, because your fingers are going on a real journey with this one!
    e 5 10!
    b 3 7
    g
    D 4 7
    A 5
    E
    Of course, there is no virtue in doing things the hard way. If you want to do some D Major sweeps, it’s a hundred times easier to just go down a few frets and use the D-chord shape. Unless you can name a serious reason for exclusively using one “caged” box, then feel free to jump in and out of it as much as you need to.
    e 2
    b 3
    g 2
    D 4
    A 5
    E
    Regarding the shape you demonstrated and asked about, it might be easier to reach “sweeping speed” by rolling those sevens with your index finger and reaching up for the last note instead of going to the 5th fret. This could be called a “G shape” arpeggio. This is not an easy sweeping shape, and I’ll admit that I’m not even close to mastering it.
    e
    b 7 10
    g 7
    D 7
    A 9
    E 10
    Of course if you don’t need to use the lower notes in the arpeggio, here’s another “hundred times easier” choice:
    e 10 14
    b 10
    g 11
    D 12
    A
    E
    Have fun and good luck!
     

    Firsty Lasty

    New Student
    Nov 11, 2019
    278
    284
    You know what, I’m not satisfied with my last answer. Looking back, “do something easier” was the wrong attitude for me to have. I realized you were probably far more interested in attacking the specific challenge rather than “how to go fast”. Here’s exactly what I would do if I wanted to get this specific shape up to speed: I would practice Jason Richardson-style finger walking through the pattern two different ways. I would strictly alternate pick through these two paths twenty thousand times each before attempting the upgrade to legato and sweeping. In fact, fuck it. I am going to do this. 20k each.
    First Type:
    5th string 5th fret is middle finger
    4th string 4th fret is index finger
    4th string 7th fret is ring finger
    3rd string 7th fret is middle finger
    2nd string 7th fret is ring finger
    1st string 5th fret is index finger
    Second Type:
    5th string 5th fret is index finger
    5th string 9th fret is pinky finger
    4th string 7th fret is ring finger
    3rd string 7th fret is index finger
    2nd string 7th fret is ring finger
    1st string 5th fret is index finger