The Phrygian Mode – Lesson 62

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In this lesson we go over the Phrygian mode – it’s scale construction and related chords.

 

[Bellah83]

If we're using the Phrygian mode in E minor, are we borrowing notes from the C major scale?

 

[Chris Johnston]

If we're using the Phrygian mode in E minor, are we borrowing notes from the C major scale?

If you're using E Phrygian, then yeah you're using all the same notes as C Major

If you meant the relative Phrygian Mode in E natural minor (B Phrygian) then you're using 6 or the 7 notes in C major, the only difference is your F note in the scale is sharpened to an F# (this is not in the C Major scale) - B Phrygian would be instead using all the notes of the G major scale.


Hope this helps and hope you're well

 

[Bellah83]

If you're using E Phrygian, then yeah you're using all the same notes as C Major

If you meant the relative Phrygian Mode in E natural minor (B Phrygian) then you're using 6 or the 7 notes in C major, the only difference is your F note in the scale is sharpened to an F# (this is not in the C Major scale) - B Phrygian would be instead using all the notes of the G major scale.


Hope this helps and hope you're well

Thank you, you as well. This definitely helps. It's finally clicking as to how the scale shapes are interchangeable within the modes.

 

[Chris Johnston]

Thank you, you as well. This definitely helps. It's finally clicking as to how the scale shapes are interchangeable within the modes.

No problem at all man!

Yeah it takes a bit of time but it clicks eventually

 

[idssdi]

If we're using the Phrygian mode in E minor, are we borrowing notes from the C major scale?

E phrygian is the third mode of C major so you're effectively playing exactly the same notes with a different tone center. It is not really borrowing as much as it is all just the same notes really.

 

[Bellah83]

E phrygian is the third mode of C major so you're effectively playing exactly the same notes with a different tone center. It is not really borrowing as much as it is all just the same notes really.

I'm not great at remembering all of the notes yet. But I can visualize the scale shapes from the root notes, and adapt the tone centers. Are basic power chords, for example the low 3 string bars in drop tuning, considered minor chords always?

 

[idssdi]

I'm not great at remembering all of the notes yet. But I can visualize the scale shapes from the root notes, and adapt the tone centers. Are basic power chords, for example the low 3 string bars in drop tuning, considered minor chords always?

NO, absolutely not! Minor and major is determined by the minor or Major third, a powerchords has neither(just the root and the fifth). Basically, minor or Major is determined by the key you're in and the note you play over them. Let's take A5-G5-F5-G5 this hints at the key of A minor because that the key where you can have those powerchords in, the A is minor, G and F are major. However, because you are playing over powerchords you can definetely throw in either a minor or Major third in your solo every once in awhile but maybe that's for another time.

 

[Bellah83]

NO, absolutely not! Minor and major is determined by the minor or Major third, a powerchords has neither(just the root and the fifth). Basically, minor or Major is determined by the key you're in and the note you play over them. Let's take A5-G5-F5-G5 this hints at the key of A minor because that the key where you can have those powerchords in, the A is minor, G and F are major. However, because you are playing over powerchords you can definetely throw in either a minor or Major third in your solo every once in awhile but maybe that's for another time.

For some reason, years ago I picked up on thinking they were all minor.
A lot of clarity came from this. Thanks guys.

 

[Alexander]

Are all the jam tracks in C?