Looking For a Theory Study Buddy

[Jak Angelescu]

Hey there everyone! I’m really trying to take this seriously. As I posted up a blues jam video a few days ago, Papa Gates gave me some eye-opening advice about applying scales I never thought would work in a billion years. I applied his advice and felt my improving go to a completely different level in no time! Being ecstatic about it, I went to my singer who plays piano and I asked her for some help on applying this concept further. She helped me figure out some other scales I could play that really brightened everything up. Problem is, is that she’s not extremely proficient with it and she admits to being wrong at times. I work with her whenever I can, but this led me to feel that I’d best benefit from having someone on here who I can reach out to that really knows their stuff. Papa Gates and Syn are both excellent at lending a hand when I have needed it but I’d like to not use them for a crutch (trying to respect their busy lives) and I’d like to learn from the other students on here if possible. Especially with the lessons tapping more into theory as I progress.
Any reach outs would be greatly appreciated!

 

[idssdi]

I know some stuff about theory but I do Bluff my way through stuff a lot of the time

 

[Josh Wright]

I know some theory I’m sure I could help out some and if not I’m sure I have a book that I can reference to help

 

[Guest]

Sounds like an idea! I can help with bits and pieces. Just dont ask me to tab anything on these darn comment screens haha

 

[Andrew Milner]

I’ll do my best to pitch in as well.

 

[Julian Barton]

I would love to get a thread started (and maybe pinned) on topics that are super important in theory and not talked about on here. Not only that but maybe some generous people could link pages on that topic! It would be like a forum on a hacking site where people would pitch in and the knowledge would just spread all over the place. I know there are some people on this site who are amazing and sit there quietly so I also encourage those people to jump in and help others because I can tell you the advice I have been given is absolutely amazing.

 

[Calvin Phillips]

I find with so much to learn you dont stop to focus on some of the stuff enough at a time. Like, I had caged system down but I dont think if I picked it up I’d get it til I saw the numbers again cause its been so long cause I started focusing on different scales. Honestly, I think I only am on lesson 60 or so, due to the amount of content to memorize lol
So a buddy definitely helps there. What exactly are you trying to nail down right now?

 

[Brian Haner Sr.]

Love that you guys are reaching out to each other. There is a ton of knowledge within this community. And as always, Syn and I are around and more than happy to help out.

 

[Guest]

Don’t know a bunch theory but I could help with some things.

 

[Calvin Phillips]

Right now I’m trying to work on the modes since I finished my second round of demos with the new amp.. so far the modes are definitely confusing me.. totally called it in the video lol

 

[idssdi]

@calvin let’s take the C major scale. Can you find the 7 positions of the C Major scale? Those are basically the modes. I’m not entirely sure how to call all of them but for example starting on G would make it G mixolydian(at least that’s what I think if I’m wrong please correct me)

 

[Guest]

Ids you are correct. Emphasis would then be on the G, B, D and F instead of the C E G and B. Starting from ever note in the major scale gives you a new flavour.
You have;
Ionian (Major) 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
Dorian 1 2 b3 4 5 6 b7
Phyrgian 1 b2 b3 4 5 b6 b7
Lydian 1 2 3 #4 5 6 7
Mixolydian 1 3 4 5 6 b7
Aeolian (Natural minor) 1 2 b3 4 5 b6 b7
Locrian 1 b2 b3 4 b5 b6 b7

 

[John Tierney]

I can help to an extent. My first 2 videos are theory based and I have more.

 

[Calvin Phillips]

ID I think the way you explained it to me helped. For some reason I watched that video 4 times and I was like wait what? lol

 

[Calvin Phillips]

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[Calvin Phillips]

had a full on message of how I’m finding pictures of Dorian mode online that are 100% not the same as the videos here, which is adding to my confusion. Went to post and apparently I was posting duplicates? So, I’m just going to just write in lame terms since apparently nothing was working there.. can post a bunch of letters but not a post I apparently already posted even though I never posted it..
Anyways, I’m looking for a full map of the fretboard of each mode, since online there are so many different variations which are probably not right, as they dont match the ones in the videos from papa gates. It’s driving me completely nuts, dont want to learn something that is fake.. want to make sure I write down the correct notes before actually practicing them.

 

[idssdi]

@calvin maybe this will help you understanding it https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mode_(music)

 

[Guest]

Just to clarify, there are a few ways to play the modes! I havent seen his video yet but PG is probably showing 1 of the variations.

 

[idssdi]

Yeah Ben Newton is right! The modes also work as the caged system. The name of the mode mostly shows when youbhave like the ionian scale on which note you start. For example if you take the C Major scale:
E
B
G————-4
D———5-7
A—5-7-8
E-8
You’re in C ionian
However if you start exactly the same scale on G:
E
B—————5-6
G———4-5-7
D——5-7
A
E
You’re in G mxolydian and as long as the notes are write you can play them anywhere on the neck as is learned in the caged system

 

[Guest]

Yeah, I think thats what I was getting at previously. G mixolydian’s parent scale is C Ionian, but what makes them different is what you are viewing as 1 3 5 and 7 intervals!