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Major Issue

Calvin Phillips

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Picked up my Revenger today to start jamming, and while tuning I realized my two high strings were rubbing against the fretboard. Randomly, out of the blue. I have never had this issue in the 10 plus year’s I’ve owned this guitar. Anyways, I figure its old strings, so I restring it. Still the same issue, figured the whammy may have reset its balance, and while tuning it, I find that I end up in the EXACT same spot I did before I restrung, two ringing off the fretboard. Can anyone help identify this issue, and if it is possible that this can happen on its own, because I have not touched this guitar in a week, since the last video I posted with it, last wednesday .. so a week and a half. If this did not happen on its own, it HAD to have happened during a walk through since im moving, meaning a complete stranger possibly knocked the guitar over.. or whatever. Because it has not moved from its spot since that moment. Really not impressed right now. I’d do a video showing it, but other then my picking the string to hear it buzz you aren’t gonna get much more then that.
 

Calvin Phillips

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I’ve literally never had the issue before. I mean, I think I know what the problem is, sometimes different gauges and whatnot require things to be positioned differently, but this was literally something that appeared to happen “over night” it wasn’t a progression thing at all, and after 10 years, you’d think it would have happened before if it was just something like that. It’s really weird. It’s not just a slight rub either, I legit cant play. But its only that side of the board. I just want to make sure it is what I think it could be before I star tmessing with it, or if its worth taking it in.
 

Calvin Phillips

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I’m thinking the one side of the bar is set too low .. I think I know how to fix it but I dont want to before I know thats the real issue. The strings are 10 gauge, the same ones I always use. But like I said, its hard to know whats going on when you’ve never had the issue before. And if its something that will continue. I mean, go back and listen to the last video I did, you dont hear any real ringing in those two strings at all. But now, i cant help but hear it everything I touch the string. I was reading it could just need a polishing, but you’d think that’d effect the entire width.. and I dont think it’d look so obvious the strings were lower.
 

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    First thought is that the bridge’s knife-edge has slipped out of it’s proper groove and down onto the screw threading. Other thought is that if you keep the action super-low, weather changes can definitely affect it. I usually have to make minor adjustments to some of my truss rods twice a year – spring and fall. Temp and humidity in the house changes when we go from heat to AC and back again.
     

    Calvin Phillips

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    could be the weather, actually. We had a really sticky day the other day. So, basically I just have to play with my rods, probably should just do a spring cleaning of the whole guitar. Thanks ed, I’ll let you know next weekend if thats the issue. I have to get polish and whatnot, gonna try to do it all that way if I take it in if this isn’t the issue they dont have to do all that too.
     
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    Jak Angelescu

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    All of my guitars did it a few days ago. If you watched my tutorial I say “I apologize about my tone. We got a sudden huge bout of humidity and I need to give it a neck adjustment.”
    Try resetting the action by adjusting the neck. Mine got to bowed forward and I have to give adjustments to four guitars today. The fact that all of mine got it the same time yours did is too ironic. Lol!
     

    Calvin Phillips

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    maybe it getting old has a bit to do with it too.. cause like i said has never reacted like that before.. since I’ve never had to make a next adjustment before (and im sure others are curious too) anyone have a video to follow.. gotta make sure you do it right
     

    Jake Young

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    My guess would be weather also. A week and a half’s time isn’t much time for the neck to move but it’s definitely possible..and I’d guess that’s your problem as Ed said..if your action was set low that’s definitely the culprit. In the video he’s showing you how to adjust your string height (action). But you should check the relief of the neck, as that is most likely your problem. Get the relief set right then adjust your string height…then most likely you will have to reset the intonation as well. Hah it’s a fun process!
     

    Calvin Phillips

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    alright Jake, once I get to the store and see if they agree with us and get polish I’ll check that too.. kinda makes sense because I do not think my whammy bar was ever 100% set correct for years although it was workable never bothered to change it. But recently with dropped C tuning, I think I can see how it could happen. I’m just glad it wasn’t something more serious like I was originally thinking.
     

    Jake Young

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    It’s always kinda hard to diagnose from a description hah ya know without physically checking it out…since you say your bar has never been 100%..that could be the issue..especially if it’s tilted too far forward.. But honestly it really just sounds like it needs a good setup. Start with the truss rod..work on getting your bridge as close to parallel as possible..adjust your action..then recheck to make sure bridge is still level..then intonate that bad boy aand then you should be good as gold!!
     

    Calvin Phillips

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    Its been a years since its had a real set up. I’m gonna take it in on thursday and pay the fee. Not cause I cant do it myself, but the truss rod is in a tricky place, and I’d rather they do that one. it looks to me like the strings are slowly starting to go back to the old place.. not as muc a ring now, but like I said, thursday I get paid so I’ll take it in then, and make sure everything is done 100% correct. I’m pretty sure the fact i’m Drop C, which is a tuning I’ve never used before is the issue.. nothing was really adjusted for it last summer when I made the change, so having the strings react to the weather would make sense there to me atleast. Thanks for everyone helping me figure this one out. The good news is I have multiple guitars to play, just means I wont be playing drop C for a bit. Lame.