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Fake Synyster Gates guitar EXAMPLE

I recently came across this fake Synyster Gates guitar that initially had PG and I fooled until Syn confirmed it was fake. I figured it would be a good idea to share this here so people can reference it in case they come into this situation.

As soon as you see it, you're probably thinking "Of course it's fake, they don't make Syn guitars in that color." That's true, but there were a couple prototypes of that guitar way back in the day. PG owns one, Syn likely owns another, who knows if there was a third floating around or other variations of this prototype. As soon as you see Syn's actual prototype at the end, it's obvious that this guitar isn't it (different inlays, pickups, black hardware, white Schecter logo, etc.) but you never know.

Someone was selling this guitar in my area for $500. As soon as I saw it, I was ready to buy it right away. Since I was slightly skeptical, I asked PG if it was real and he said it looked legit as far as he could tell. Eventually we noticed a few inconsistencies. But since this guitar would be a prototype, the inconsistencies weren't exactly a dead give away. Syn put the nail in the coffin, but here's what tells me this was fake.

1. Pickups - The pickups aren't Invaders. Not a dead giveaway, as the owner could've swapped pickups or since it could've been a prototype, it just could've had other pickups.

2. Pickup Selector/Knob placement - On a traditional Synyster Gates guitar, the knobs sit below the pickup selector. On this guitar, the pickup selector is between the knobs.

3. Top Strap Button placement - On this guitar, the upper strap button is on top of the "horn" of the guitar, pointing up toward the headstock. On a regular Syn Custom, the strap button is on the back of the "horn" on the back of the guitar, pointing behind the guitar.

4. Deathbat Inlay - The pictures weren't the greatest, but I could kind of tell that the jaw of the Deathbat was slightly off.

5. Inlays - Again, the pictures aren't great but to me it looks like the inlays on the fretboard aren't pearloid. To me, the inlays on this guitar looks flat white whereas it looks pearlescent on a legit Syn guitar.

6. Large Headstock - This one was difficult to tell as well, but if you look at the "points" on the headstock at the 6th string tuning peg and 1st string tuning peg, it's very wide. The distance from point to point is pretty long in comparison to a real Syn Custom. Also, Schecter put out a statement back in the day warning against counterfeit guitars and they warned against large headstocks. (More info here)

7. Backplate - Small difference, but the backplate on this fake guitar has a space where you can see the bridge/springs. My Syn Custom (~2010) doesn't have a space on the backplate. The newer models do, but the space doesn't look like the one in this picture. Again, the owner could've swapped that out.

8. Pinstripes - The large thick pinstripes on the headstock don't touch the 1st and 6th string tuning post on this guitar. On a real Syn guitar, they do. Also, the pinstripes on the body of this guitar end before the edge of the guitar (look at the pinstripes on the left side of the body). On a real Syn, they go all the way to the edge.

9. Serial/Country - On the back of the headstock, where the headstock and neck join, a real Syn guitar would have a serial number and tell you where it was made. This guitar doesn't have that. However if this were in fact some sort of prototype, it wouldn't be unlikely that it wouldn't have that information on the guitar.


To reiterate, you could chalk up some of these things to it possibly being a prototype. Some of these things are definitely due to bad craftsmanship that Schecter would never let leave the factory. There may be other things I missed as well. I used my 2010 Syn Custom as a reference. This guitar fooled me and PG. Luckily, I didn't buy this guitar. I made the seller of this guitar aware of everything, and they changed the listing to a lower price and made it clear that it was fake. They said they bought it from a Flea Market. I know, crazy to think a Flea Market guitar is fake.

Be careful out there when buying a guitar this is too good to be true. On the other hand, if you didn't pay too much and it looks/plays/sounds good, who cares?


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A great music theory primer

I know that some people find music theory and standard notation to be nigh-impenetrable, so I'd like to share a resource that, based on a quick search, doesn't seem to have ever been mentioned in the SGS.

Keep in mind I'm no researcher—just another dude on the internet, so everything I say is purely based on my limited observation and is in no way meant to belittle anyone, because music theory is hard.

Teoría is a site that includes both an introduction to music theory as well as exercises to practice ear training, sight singing, and the theory introduced by the tutorials. For understanding a good majority of everyday music, teoría has you covered in the first five modules; the sixth module on musical forms is mostly only useful for those studying classical repertoire—I say mostly because the last section Phrases, Periods, and Motives can be useful if you want to understand why certain song and verse structures work as they do.

I would say my only gripe about the material is that, at the time of writing—though I have just submitted feedback about this via the site's contact form—there seems to be no explicit mention of the fact that, in a traditional seven-note Western scale, whatever it may be, each base letter A–G must appear exactly once, something that explains partially why accidentals matter. It's an implicit convention that's really important for the sanity and consistency of standard notation but that, because it's implicit, is probably overlooked or dismissed—a real pain if you've ever looked at the standard notation for a tab on UG.

I hope this helps someone. And take it slooow. Learning music theory is hard. I picked it up as a young kid through my piano lessons—group lessons by a wonderful teacher whose curriculum placed great emphasis on music theory—and it took several years to get to a reasonably high level. Granted, the pace was intentionally not too fast, likely so as not to overwhelm the students, but as we know, learning becomes harder with age. I would guess six months to a year or even a year and a half is probably the bare minimum for an adult working through this stuff.

Let's Rock Tiktok!

Hey guys!

I was thinking it's about time we try to dominate the more guitar stuff into TikTok. Since they have this "Duet" feature, I'd like to make use of it to jam songs together and especially play harmonizing bits!

I've uploaded my first few videos for anyone to duet "Unholy Confessions" & "Chapter Four" either harmonies together :)

Here's my profile! https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSJNWcHdv/

Come join me! Let's rock!

  • Question
How to stop being so hard on myself

Hey guys, long time no talk eh? I have been ridiculously busy with university (graduating in July)and haven't been able to play guitar as much as I would like but I still manage to noodle around every day. I have been attempting to try and learn songs that I know parts of but dont know fully. I've been playing 11 years and can't play a full song so I wanted to change that but I am finding that what should be fairly easy like a sweep arpeggio trips me up and it's really frustrating.

I feel that this is more of a matter of ability compared to the length of time playing scenario but I honestly don't know how to go about practicing stuff slowly without feeling like im just really shit haha. My technique hasn't always been 100% great but I admit it's a hell of a lot better than it was but I just look at tabs sometimes and hear how they sound in the song and it's a complete muscle memory fuck despite doing similar techniques hundreds of times.

Anyone got advice for just not feeling like a complete tool when having to slow stuff down? At the moment (even though I know it's not) it just feels embarrassing the amount I have to slow stuff down to wrap my head around it.

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MAKING a Guitar

So since I made the Buying a new guitar post I had wondered about MAKING my own guitar from like the start. A block of wood and it gets turned into a guitar, but I just wouldn’t know where to start neither do I have the space to do it. And I wanted to ask here because I am too lazy to type my questions in Google/ safari and have to search. But I figured I would get the best answers and advice and stuff here because it’s fun and I enjoy reading your replies and what not.😊

here are some of my questions:
1. What type of wood would be best for me to use for me to make the base and neck and all the major parts.
2. What tools would I need I’m sure there are tools I have not learned of I know the basic, chop saw, table saw etc. but what else is there that I would need
3. And… so far that’s all I got I’ll probably ask more later on
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What notation software do you use and why?

What notation software do you use and why?

  • Finale

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Guitar Pro

    Votes: 8 66.7%
  • MuseScore

    Votes: 1 8.3%
  • Sibelius

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Tuxguitar

    Votes: 3 25.0%
  • Other (please specify)

    Votes: 1 8.3%

I'm curious to see what everyone uses and why.

I use, and for a long time have used, MuseScore because it's free and open-source and cross-platform. I've tried Sibelius and Guitar Pro, but I felt neither were worth sticking to.
  • Sibelius: I bought this while I was in high school for the education price, doing amateur orchestral arrangements for my peers. Great workflow—Sibelius keypad my beloved—and obviously very high quality output, but I'd misunderstood that I was paying for a subscription, not a one-time fee, so I never renewed
  • Guitar Pro (demo only): I found it confusing to use, standard notation seems to be a second-class citizen (rhythm and accidentals in GP are so hard to use), and I don't want to pay for a subscription again
Being a general notation program, MuseScore's guitar output isn't great, but it's getting better with time as users chime in, wanting better guitar output

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